>> there would be more people covered and the cost would be lower if we had a government plan, a government -- >> is there anyway to prove that contention? >> no, i hear what mark is saying. and by the way this congressman is someone who said we should unionize doctors. we have a veterans administration who is doing health care that was not so great. i wish it was better. for the one size fits all approach, it is costly. we don't have the same demographics as britain and canada. even the health care costs rise dramatically in those countries. and this bill which i read is saying that they would pay out increasing taxpayer funds to increase coverage. you can imagine the costs for this bill would go up dramatically. >> rick, isn't this really wh the president's intention was to go to a single payer system? >> frankly i wish it were, but i don't think it was. >> hold on a second. he did say that at one point. i believe we have the tape of him saying that in 2003. let's roll the tape. >> i happen to be a proponent of the universal health care plan. >> there he said it. i am in favor of a single